There are several reasons for this, which can be summarized as follows: The Imprimatur of the Catholic Church, granted by Bishop Juan Abelardo Mata Guevara of Esteril in 2017 to Luz de Marias writings after 2009, together with a personal statement affirming his belief in their supernatural origin. People like to assume that all large institutions are rich, and the Catholic Church is very large. Stefano Gobbi (seen in photo above with St. Pope John Paul II), Our Lady has unequivocally said that the Second Coming of Jesus will happen very soon, in fact in the present generation.The messages, which carry the imprimatur from several cardinals and bishops, are compiled in the book "To the Priests: Our . | Irondale, AL 35210 |. "Therefore, no other person, not even a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority" (SC, #22, n3). Eventually, all of her children married, and in time, moved back in with her, bringing their children with them. Gobbi claims that the fire that prepares the way for the new heavens and the new earth is merely a spiritual fire, i.e., a second Pentecost. EWTNor The Eternal Word Television Networkis a televeesionan radiooperation that braidcasts Catholicreligiousprogrammin, via satellite, tradeetional braidcastteleveesion, shortwaveradio an the Internet. Through this movement, I am calling all my children to consecrate themselves to my Heart, and to spread everywhere cenacles of prayer. Salvation and sanctification: the two ultimate desires God has for His dear children. Regular meetings, called "cenacles," follow a lose plan which consists of sharing priestly fellowship and prayer in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. While such a foreignNihil obstat does not, on its own, constitutein situ diocesan approval of the apparitions, it is certainly not insignificant. What can I do to get over the hurt and pain these so called "good Catholics" have caused me and my family? In each revelation given to Luz de Mara, Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary guide the steps, the work, and the actions of the people of God in these times in which humanity needs to return to the teachings contained in Holy Scripture. Thirdly, the messages have frequently been accompanied by visible phenomena, photographic evidence found inIn Cammino con Maria, which cannot be the fruit of subjective imagination, notably the presence of the stigmata on Giselles body and and the appearance of crosses or religious texts inbloodon Gisellas arms. Knowing my concern, my friend brought me a copy of Fr. There are three translations (or versions) on the Holy Scriptures approved for use in public worship in the dioceses of the United States: The New American Bible; the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition; and The Jerusalem Bible. Guests include Fr. Thank you! While an investigative commission was established in 1998 by Bishop of Brescia Bruno Foresti, the Church has never taken an official position on the apparitions, although Marcos prayer group has been allowed to meet in a church in the diocese. She was one of five daughters who lived in the small city of Corato, Italy. Gobbis explanation, which is not covered by the imprimatur. Fr. Thank you for your patience in this matter, and for being here to just listen. He was born in the Province of Como, Italy and was ordained as a priest in 1964. The Diocesan Administrator contacted the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and obtained a statement in 2017 to the effect that the CDF did not consider the apparitions supernatural in origin, a position also maintained by the Archdiocese of Manaus. Sensing that this could be a sign, the children began to pray the Rosary. At most cenacles, the meditations of Don Stefano are read and discussed, though this is not an essential part of the movement. Finally, theres the loyalty issue. Cardinal Pter Erd of Esztergom-Budapest, Primate of Hungary, established a commission to study The Spiritual Diary and the various recognitions that local bishops around the world had given to The Flame of Love movement, as a private association of the faithful. All will see the sign given in this Cross; they will repent of not having listened to me, for having laughed at my messages and at my messengers, but it will be too late because they will have dissipated my graces. Gobbi, she stated, Many times have I intervened in order to set back further and further in time the beginning of the great trial, for the purification of this poor humanity, now possessed and dominated by the spirits of evil." In this time of grace, Satan wants to seduce you; but you, little children, keep looking at my Son and follow Him towards Calvary in renunciation and fasting. (Trevignano Romano miracolo del sole 3 gennaio 2020/Trevignano Romanos miracle of the sun, January 3, 2020). They describe it as a final cosmic upheaval of the passing world (CCC 677) in which the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up (1 Pet. The Second Vatican Council indicates the conditions which can be used to determine whether a particular teaching is to be determined infallible. And remember, the errors weve discussed are contained in Fr. .). Gobbis explanation of the thousand-year reign clearly falls into the category of mitigated millenarianism, which cannot be taught safely.. Living as an orphan on the verge of starvation, Elizabeth worked hard to survive. An educated conscience is one's first guide to moral decisions. After a period during which he was effectively homeless, Eduardo eventually settled in So Jos dos Pinhais in the state of Paran in 1997, where he still resides, and where a sanctuary has been built, as can be seen in the videos of the apparitions. Not long after that, Our Lady began to speak to him, especially after he received Holy Communion. He gathered them into a book, To the Priests: Our Lady's Beloved Sons, and presented it to the Marian Movement. | Irondale, AL 35210 | 1-800-447-3986 | viewer@ewtn.com He later obtained a doctorate in sacred theology from the Pontifical Lateran University in Rome.He founded the worldwide Catholic movement, the Marian Movement of Priests (MMP) following what he reported as an interior locution in . thus I have again succeeded in postponing the time of the chastisement decreed by divine justice for a humanity which has become worse than at the time of the flood.(#576). There are also proclamations of the resurgence of true faith, the unity of the people of God, the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and the final Triumph of Christ, the King of the Universe, when there will no longer be divisions, and we will be one people under the One God. In a follow-up meeting, Msgr. Stefano Gobbi, as contained in the book "Our Lady Speaks to Her Beloved Priests" ( with imprimatur and nihil obstat ), Our Lady shared the signs of the "end times", or the times that precede the Second Coming of Jesus. Italy (1930-2011)Priest, Mystic, and Founder ofThe Marian Movement of Priests. It was indescribable pain, although I know that however painful it may be, it is not the totality of the pain that Christ continues to suffer for humanity. ((Revelamos Quen Es la Vidente Luz de Mara, Foros de la Virgen Mara, accessed July 13, 2019, https://forosdelavirgen.org/118869/luz-de-maria-reportaje)), It was on March 19 of 1992, that the Blessed Mother began to speak regularly to Luz de Mara. Father, I am in the process of leaving my present parish because of the over-emphasis on financial standing, and outward appearances. There are several major reasons for focusing on Trevignano Romano as a potentially important and solid prophetic source. Many people have become confused about the notion of salvation they seem to find in Romans 9, which leads to confusion when taken out of the context of Paul's purpose; such was the case with John Calvin in the 16th century in formulating his doctrine of "predestination," which was the central teaching of his Reformed Church (more recently known as the Presbyterians) until the middle of this century, when they more or less abandoned the belief. In December of that year, Pope Frances lifted a moratorium ondiocesan organized pilgrimages, essentially elevatingMedjugorjeto shrine status. Am I heading in the correct direction? The CDF subsequently advised that his messages "are not the words of our Blessed Mother, but his private meditations." EWTN personalities join Fr. From 1870 to 1940, over four hundred bishops, eighty thousand priests and religious, and more than eight million of the laity had formally signed requests asking for a definition of Mary's bodily Assumption into heaven. The events that the Blessed Mother foretold to Fr. Just as the astounding revelations on the Divine Mercy entrusted by Jesus to St. Faustina constitute Gods final effort of salvation (before his Second Coming in grace), so too His revelations on the Divine Will entrusted to the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta constitute Gods final effort of sanctification. As a Media Missionary, your task is to prayerfully take EWTN to your parish and community through the print and electronic media we provide. He had next to no catechesis or understanding of the Catholic Faith, so the voice of Jesus both alarmed and entranced him. November 5, 2019 Editor. Gobbi himself says, "No locution, not even such as are gathered together in this book, could take the place of, or be put on a par with, an official public statement of the faith of the Church, from which the complete physiognomy of Mary and her mission will become apparent. This article explains why it may be dangerous for faithful Catholics to participate in the Marian Movement of Priests or to believe in the locutions of its founder, Fr. As Fr. Pawel said, Spread the messages to the world any way you can.. ." In May of 2017, acommission established by Pope Benedict XVI andchaired by Cardinal Camillo Ruiniconcluded its investigation into the apparitions. What is the church's opinion/stand on predestination? Why Simona and Angela? The Catholic Church defines the conscience as a faculty of the intellect that alerts us as to whether our actions are in conformity with the truth. Your example of contraception and "on the basis of personal opinion" is not what I was talking about, unless you define "opinion" as a reasonable position based on consideration of all relevant sources of knowledge. He sounds well respected and authentic. . With this attachment to the movement and the people in it, it is difficult for them to seeor more precisely, to bewillingto seeits defects. Gobbis locutions, the Blessed Mother disagrees and continues to ask for another consecration. I have so many questions. Subj: Conscience Date: 93-06-06 21:09:26 EDT From: Detractor, Fr. . Joseph Iannuzzi, and other sources, please allow us, in just a few sentences, to strive to put an end to the perplexity. Why Pedro Regis? It is also, and especially, the vital present-day function of an organism animated by the Spirit of God. Mitch, Johnnette Williams, Jerry Usher, Debbie Georgianni, Crystalina Evert and David Anders. But an imprimatur does not verify that the predictions in it are true or that they are from our Lady. In 2009, the cardinal not only gave the Imprimatur to The Spiritual Diary, but recognized Elizabeths mystical locutions and writings as authentic, a gift to the Church. In addition, he gave his episcopal approval of the Flame of Love movement, which has formally operated within the Church for over twenty years. The messages have been gathered into a book entitled, Thy Kingdom Come, and on March 19, 2017, Juan Abelardo Mata Guevara, SDB, Titular Bishop of Estel, Nicaragua, granted them the Imprimatur of the Church. Gobbi is saying Christ will have his victory without the Last Judgment, while the Church teaches that Jesus' victory will actually "take the form of the Last Judgment." . Just as she took part in the struggle of her only-begotten Son with the serpent of hell, so also she shared in his glorious triumph over sin and its sad consequences" (Fulgens Corona, 21). In the event that Big Tech shuts us down, and youd like to stay connected, please also add your address, which will never be shared. In 1997, the messages of Itapiranga at times emphasized devotion to St. Josephs Most Chaste Heart, and Jesus asked for the following Feast Day to be introduced into the Church: I desire that the first Wednesday, after the Feast of My Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, be dedicated to the Feast of the Most Chaste Heart of St. Joseph. Without knowing the director you speak of, and assuming what you say is accurate, I would not hesitate to question the experience or wisdom of any director of souls who would insist that someone practice one particular method of prayer or meditation. Father Gobbi believes that he continues to receive interior locutions from Our Lady, which are collected in book form and distributed among the members of the movement. Gobbis locutions were always presented within the movement as coming without question from Mary. Additionally, the juridical actions undertaken by the CDF only restrict 1) official Liturgical promotion of Edsons messages, 2) wider dissemination of his messages by Edson himself or his Association in Itapiranga, and 3) the promotion of the messages within the Prelature of Itacoatiara. But those who are uncomfortable with the idea of the meditations as actual interior locutions from Mary can nevertheless find much value in them as meditations on the Church in our time. . Gobbis locutions as Marys messages, I began to have other reasons to wonder about the MMP. Its contents can be found here: http://www.heartofmaryarabic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Blue-Book.pdf. Don Ciro Vespoli was one of the original group of seers as an adolescent, and subsequently became a priest. She was alone and mistakenly arrived at the station at 10 p.m. A young couple took her back to Budapest where she spent the remainder of her life until she died in 1985. Without judging individuals, we must measure all teaching against the doctrine of the Church, our faithful Mother. In this Second Pentecost, the Spirit of Christ will penetrate ever soul so forcefully and thoroughly that in five-to fifteen minutes time, every person will see his or her life of sin. It has attracted the attention of specialist writers such as the well-known Italian journalist Saverio Gaeta, and has lately been the subject of a book-length study by researcher Annarita Magri. But regarding your question of why priests would make liturgical innovations they are not authorized to make, I have no answer to give you. What does the Church have to say about these messages? As for the possibility that Pedro Regis could have invented nearly 5000 messages over a period of nearly 33 years, it has to be asked what possible motivation he could have for doing so. On closer inspection of the opinions of Fr. What you call "one's God-given gift of reason" cannot assess all it's conclusions true when they are different from those of the Author of truth. You can see right away the problem: it appears as if Paul is saying that people are good or bad because God causes them to be such, without any effort or purpose on their part involved. Every week I absolve the sins of people who are much less sinful than myself. Contact Us. During the cenacles, and on other occasions, this man would see in the air in front of him the numbers of messages from the so-called Blue Book, the collection of the revelations Our Lady gave to Fr. All has been revealed to you "Beloved sons, in silence and in prayer, spend with me the final hours of this year which is about to end. But as long as human beings are involved, so will there be faults and flaws. . For example, if a Catholic priest, for whatever reason, tells someone that they may steal money from work and that this is not wrong, the person does not sin in doing it, because their conscience has been misinformed. Many of the prophecies Luz de Mara has received have already been fulfilled, including the attack on the Twin Towers in New York, which was announced to her eight days in advance. The answer is: The system of mitigated millenarianism cannot be taught safely.. Although you can find such an introduction in the books, The Crown of History, The Crown of Sanctity, The Sun of My Will (published by the Vatican itself), A Guide to the Book of Heaven (which bears an imprimatur), Mark Malletts brief summary On Luisa and Her Writings, the works of Fr. In 1964, was ordained at the age of 34. Bernard's century, the twelfth, already awaited a Last World Emperor, an Angelic Pope, the Antichrist, and Doomsday. Certainly no human being exists who is not either a man or a womanthere's no such thing as a sexless person, and Jesus clearly became a man. [Message #389] The messages of Our Lady of Good Success also mention that some of these events will occur in "the twentieth century. So what explains this discrepancy in the worlds timeline? As a layman, he managed an insurance agency, and then following a call to the priesthood, he went on to receive a doctorate in sacred theology from the Pontifical Lateran University in Rome. In fact, in "The Cloud of Unknowing," a 14th century work which is the principle source for those who advocate centering prayer, the author takes pains to insist that his method should not be applied to everyone, but only to those who have reached the most advanced stages of the interior life, and only after it has been determined by one's director to be beneficial. On October 12, 1987, four days after his first communion, Eduardo and his sister Eliete were praying in front of this image when Eduardo saw a blue light emerging from it and illuminating the room. The Church, she assured me, approved the movement. Fr. Stefano Gobbi of the Marian Movement of Priests (MMP) aired in 1994. Thank You for Being Here ! Gobbis locutions finally came in a letter put out by the Marian Movement of Priests itself. The Nicene Creed: He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead.. In the introduction of the de facto handbook of the MMP: To the Priests, Our Ladys Beloved Sons, it says of the movement: The messages that Our Lady gave to Fr. While I am not worthy of this, I accept with great fear and responsibility this great gift, handing myself over totally to His Divine Will. Gobbi through interior locutions are some of the most numerous and detailed regarding her love of her people, her constant support of her priests, the coming persecution of the Church, and what she calls the Second Pentecost, another term for the Warning, or the Illumination of Conscience of all souls. Gobbi of the Marian Movement of Priests were intended to renew and reform more specifically the priest, her priests' who belong to her when they consecrate themselves to her Immaculate Heart. Mary appears in these apparitions as Rosa Mystica, a title under which she appeared to nurse Pierina Gilli in Montichiari-Fontanelle (1947), an event to which the Brazilian apparitions to Eduardo and Junior refer repeatedly. Imprimatur means literally let it be printedsignifying whoever reviewed it found worthy of printing, meaning it contains no teachings contrary to the faith. Fr. This led them to repent of their living situation and enter a sacramental marriage. Roux says the actions of those who express doubts about the locutions are ferocious attacks that our Lady predicted would be made on her movement. I didnt know. However, I did read yours of 5/29, "Missing Mass on Sundays." An EWTN classic, "Life on the Rock," which featured Fr. In 1948, the Communist Nationalization of Hungary was a harsh master, and she was fired from her first job for having a statue of the Blessed Mother in her home. Their unique role will be to partake in the sovereign earthly reign of Christ for this thousand-year period (5). Yet there is additional video evidence of solar phenomena in the presence of multiple witnesses during prayer at the apparition site, similar to the phenomena of the Dancing Sun in Fatima in 1917 or attested by Pope Pius XII in the Vatican Gardens immediately preceding the proclamation of the Dogma of the Assumption in 1950. People who interpret conscience as "how I feel about it personally" will say that conscience excuses the use of contraception on the basis of personal opinion. While it is true that Dr. Miravalle withdrew his book after learning of the CDF document, it is also worth noting that several websites around the world featuring alleged prophetic material that are known for their faithfulness to Church teaching have nonetheless decided to continue publishing translations of the Itapiranga messages. Further information: http://mammadellamore.it/inglese.htm Taken from the best-selling book, The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience. St. Vincent of Lerins, in the 5th century, was the first to suggest the conditions by which the ordinary, everyday teaching of bishops and/or popes can become infallible. More disconcerting than the message itself were some of the explanations given by MMP members of just what this expected return would entail. Without the final judgment, Christ will establish His kingdom in the world after having defeated and annihilated His enemies (3). Stefano Gobbi. Dated October 7, 1998 and addressed to All members of the Marian Movement of Priests, the letter from Rev. Running to more than 1000 printed pages, Alicjas two-volume spiritual journal (Testimony (1985-1989) and Exhortations (1989-2010) was published posthumously, thanks to the efforts of the Archbishop of Szczecin, Andrzej Dziga, who established a theological commission for the evaluation of her writings, which were granted the Imprimatur by Bishop Henryk Wejman. She met with Monsignor Pawel Ptasznik, a close friend and collaborator of the Pope and the Polish Secretariat of State for the Vatican. In 2010, her mystical communications came to a conclusion, two years before her death from cancer in St. Johns Hospice, Szczecin, on January 5, 2012. Every parish community will seem lacking in some respect to someone. Stefano Gobbi as being of a heavenly nature. These Mother Angelica Shows with Fr. But, without launching into a treatise on conscience, let me just say when you speak of "a reasonable position based on consideration of all relevant sources of knowledge," you're forgetting the fact one of those source is guided by the Holy Spirit; and the Spirit does not contradict himself, guiding the Church in one direction and individuals in another. (It is Don Ciro who, at least until recently, would read out the messages written down by Simona and Angela after they emerged from their supposed ecstasies or resting in the Spiritriposo nello Spirito). It was much later that the American Baptists, who's roots are found in early Calvinism, would modify this belief into the idea that all of us are unrighteous before God, and it is only due to his mercy that we can be saved; leaving open the possibility of salvation to everyone, but still discounting any idea at all of a possibility of transformation in grace. EWTN, for its part, is trying to put the best spin on all of this, announcing new programming on its Catholic News Agency site with the headline: "2021 EWTN lineup will see new arrivals, some departures." Note: the "departures" were mentioned only in passing and with no explanation. " thus I have again succeeded in postponing the time of the chastisement decreed by divine justice for a humanity which has become worse than at the time of the flood.(#576). Stephano Gobbis locutions, which were messages from Mary. And, we can be sure, Mother Marys voice will always be in harmony with Holy Mother Church. Gobbi: Message 532 says we will see the new heavens and the new earth in the year 2000. Gobbi: It is clear that we will retain our weakened nature even after the Second Coming of Christ in glory (9). It was only when a priest made the signof the Cross over her body that Luisa regained her faculties. Catechism:The Antichrists deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological [final] judgment. Longenecker Dwight Longenecker 2020-10-13T13:05:13-04:00. I hope this answers your question; thanks for posting. Gobbi, requested and advised that he should not claim in the books introduction that these messages are from the Blessed Mother, but rather that they are the product of his own personal meditation., Fr. Soon Our Lady began to speak through him to a weekly prayer group that grew and grew. See the pictures taken from her apparition website https://www.lareginadelrosario.com/, which say Siate testimoni (be witnesses), Abbiate fede (have faith), Maria santissima (Mary most holy), Popolo mio (My people), and Amore (Love). The two current visionaries, Simona Patalano and Angela Fabiani, receive messages on the 8th and 26th of each month, and Don Ciro Vespoli, who provides spiritual guidance to them, was himself one of a group of seers during the initial phase of the apparitions, before he became a priest. . If only the Spirit, in these cases, was a bit more focused. Again, the judgment may be objectively wrong because the knowledge used is objectively erroneous; but the judgment of conscience is able to be subjectively correctand subjectively moral. Copyright 2023 Eternal Word Television Network, Inc. Irondale, Alabama. In 1990, she received a miraculous healing from an illness, coinciding with both a visitation from the Blessed Mother and a new and more public calling to share her mystical experiences. The attitude of the clergy is predictably mixed: some priests are skeptical, while others participate fully in the cenacle. I give you my will; please give me Yours in return., Let Your Kingdom come. 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